Kind of evidence of organism presence observed. Please suggest more options in the comments!

Tipo de dados: text
Valores permitidos:
organism seen 8436
organism heard 17
scat 139
tracks 313
nest 37
partial remains 114
feeding sign 50
gall 61
shell 279
home 5
Criado por: kueda kueda
Values:

Observações especificando este campo

Observação Evidence type
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

What

Erva-Das-Pampas (Cortaderia selloana)

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 02:33 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 01:29 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 02:33 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 02:26 PM SAST
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 12:39 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 12:38 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 03:13 PM SAST
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 03:12 PM SAST
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 03:10 PM SAST
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

What

Gramíneas (Família Poaceae)

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 03:03 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

What

Silvas (Género Rubus)

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 02:54 PM SAST
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 02:53 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen

Fotos / Sons

What

Feto-Do-Monte (Pteridium aquilinum)

Observador

hhodgson

Data

Abril 29, 2024 02:51 PM SAST
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen
organism seen
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Comentários

How about galls?

Publicado por beartracker cerca de 7 anos antes

Could include gall. Can you think of a more generlized way to express this phenomenon that would include other parasite-induced features like galls, bot fly lesions, etc.? Or is it worth keeping such things separate?

Publicado por kueda cerca de 7 anos antes

It might be worth keeping it separate since it gives more detailed categories.

Publicado por beartracker cerca de 7 anos antes

Alright, I added "gall" if you want to use it.

Publicado por kueda cerca de 7 anos antes

Thanks! I'll use it.

Publicado por beartracker cerca de 7 anos antes

what about feathers? Here is an example observation https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/35500991

Publicado por mkkennedy mais de 3 anos antes
Publicado por mkkennedy mais de 3 anos antes

I would classify feathers as "partial remains." Shell would kind of fit in that too, though if it did merit an additional value here it would have to be well-defined. Does that include egg shells? What about arthropod exuvia?

Publicado por kueda mais de 3 anos antes

For shells & exuvia, partial remains sort of works, though another term might be better. Hard remains? Cover bones, shells & exuvia. Or how else to state ir? Partial implies not whole, but also not specific. Bone/shell/exuvia imply durable traces that may suggest presence at some point in past, possibly nearby but may have been moved (by collector/predator/weather/water). So has different implications for the observation than the other terms.

Publicado por clauden mais de 3 anos antes

I have used "carcass" as a sort of cover-all term to include any remains when they were not easy to classify. That may not be too accurate in my part though.

Publicado por beartracker mais de 3 anos antes

here is a definition from BODC (British Oceanographic Data Centre) for 'shell'
http://vocab.nerc.ac.uk/collection/S12/current/S1239/

Publicado por mkkennedy mais de 3 anos antes

i have a few observation photos of beaver lodges - should there be new vocab terms for 'homes' such as lodges or burrows that are separate from nests? example https://inaturalist.ca/observations/10684050

Publicado por mkkennedy mais de 3 anos antes

I think I'm just going to start adding things people request and stop worrying about semantics. That's what annotations are for. Curators, feel free to edit this field as you see fit.

Publicado por kueda mais de 3 anos antes

@kueda, here are my thoughts:
(1) The "Skulls & Bones" project is one example of folks who specifically want bones, not partial remains or bones with tissues attached. I would vote for a separate category for bones.
(2) Likewise, the "Found Feathers" project is only interested in bird feathers, not bones, not other animal remains. Also, if feathers are categorized as "partial remains", that suggests to me the bird was dead, which isn't necessarily the case, if the bird was just molting.
(3) The "partial remains" category could then be for multiple tissue types (e.g., bones, hair, skin, internal organs, etc.)
(4) Since you allow multiple entries for this Annotation, one could add several categories, as applicable, e.g., bones, feather
(5) Would you like to add "smelled organism" to include skunk/fox scent? (see the values for the "How was this detected?" field.
(6) Would it be possible to map the "How was this detected?" field to the "Evidence Type" annotation, similar to how the "Observation field: Alive (AOR), Dead (DOR), or Injured (IOR)" observation field maps into the "Alive or Dead" annotation? If that can be done automatically, hundreds or thousands of current observations could have an auto-updated "Evidence Type" annotation.
Thanks for creating this new annotation. It will be very helpful.

Publicado por truthseqr quase 3 anos antes

@truthseqr, there's an extensive conversation about Evidence of Presence at https://forum.inaturalist.org/t/new-annotation-evidence-of-presence/23945, so I encourage you to add your thoughts there. We can map certain observation field values to annotations, presuming there is a good semantic match (e.g. "scat" matches exactly, but "Found remains" is ambiguous).

Publicado por kueda quase 3 anos antes

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