How do you pronounce Hedypnois rhagadioloides anyway?
Posted on 05 de novembro de 2021, 03:34 AM
by arboretum_amy
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Calflora says hed-IP-no-is, which is not the stress I would have guessed. Unfortunately that page uses H. cretica, the old name, so no tips on how to say rhagadioloides.
Stress in latin is on second syllable from the end if it's not the short one, vowel before another vowel is always short, so stress is on the third syllable from the end (e.g. Delph(i)nium), also "oi" can be called a diphthong, that way "y" is a second syllable (and it's before two constants, so it's long).
But in the end, we are trying to pronounce made-up words derived from Greek or Latin roots that have been latinized and then speaking them in English (or any other language) and mostly following the pronunciation rules of the language used for communication. In the end it all gets jumbled and I usually just tell people to enunciate all the syllables and say the names with confidence.
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Calflora says hed-IP-no-is, which is not the stress I would have guessed. Unfortunately that page uses H. cretica, the old name, so no tips on how to say rhagadioloides.
Stress in latin is on second syllable from the end if it's not the short one, vowel before another vowel is always short, so stress is on the third syllable from the end (e.g. Delph(i)nium), also "oi" can be called a diphthong, that way "y" is a second syllable (and it's before two constants, so it's long).
Sneaky diphthong.
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I have found this guide by Mike Simpson to be very useful to help students with pronunciation of scientific names: http://www.sci.sdsu.edu/plants/plantsystematics/botnames.html
But in the end, we are trying to pronounce made-up words derived from Greek or Latin roots that have been latinized and then speaking them in English (or any other language) and mostly following the pronunciation rules of the language used for communication. In the end it all gets jumbled and I usually just tell people to enunciate all the syllables and say the names with confidence.
Nice! Thanks Josh
@connlindajo -- thought you may enjoy this journal post as well. :)
Thanks @sambiology! I LOVE it! "Rhagadioloides happens".
Grateful that typing "hed rha" into iNat is sufficient, but honestly read it as Hedynopsis until I saw this...
ruh-gah-dee-oh-LOY-deez?
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